Trouble in Terrorist Town - a GMod gamemode

[JoTheShmo]

looks like Update is rolling out now.

http://www.garrysmod.com/news/?p=10226

Most likely breaks something again...

[illusive101]

Yep, TTT is pretty much broke... any ETA on update? :D

[worbat]

So looks like Valve is being slow with releasing the gmod update. I have no idea if it ends up coming out tomorrow or in a few hours when I'm asleep. Just in case, I've put a version onli

Nope.


In other news, according to garry's twitter they might be releasing an update today. Presumably it will just be the animation stuff (which broke everything) from last time without LuaJIT (which made old computers crash). I thought there was supposed to be a beta but whatever. Hopefully they do it while I'm awake so I can put out a firefighting release.

ne with a small change that might help with issues that arise. Note that I obviously have no idea if it will help at all, what with the update not being out as I post this.

There will be another update once I can test with the new gmod version and fix any issues that arise. That's why it's going here rather than the release thread.



v040510:

- Made weapons properly derive from gmod's weapon_base.

Trouble in Terrorist Town v040510

[laser2150]

Hitboxes seem broke, alot of players aren't able to do any damage to each other.

[JoTheShmo]

Yeah, but nothing else is bork.
Whatchu smokin' illusive?

[illusive101]

didn't say it was demolished.

What I meant was, hitboxes are off and you can pick up double main weapons.

Also, if you break a crate and switch your weapons you get LUA errors like crazy along with carrying double main weapon guns will give you LUA errors >.<

[Bad King Urgrain]

I'm awake now and will start working on things in a bit. Of course the aim is to put out an update ASAP, but it's hard to predict anything because I haven't even started the game yet.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Allright, everything in TTT (040510) actually seems to be working perfectly fine. I can't reproduce any issues with two main weapons.

From what I can tell at first glance, GMod's lag compensation seems to be completely broken/disabled/not there. Testing with bots (or NPCs for that matter) sv_showlagcompensation 1 doesn't show any lag compensation happening. It is not there in sandbox mode either. Might be related to not being able to hit people.

Facepunch & co are down right now, so I'll have to wait before I can do some more investigating.
edit: Ah, it's up again.

edit2:
Right, nothing useful there.

More information on issues is welcome. For example, is the "can't damage" thing a case of the game not registering that you hit someone, especially if he's moving (this would point to lag compensation)? Or does it happen even when two players are standing still right in front of each other?

[laser2150]

no you get blood and everything, but you talking about the lag compensation makes some sense now.

cause even knives can fail to register, you get blood but no kill. and with how most knives are, your running behind someone... it makes sense.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Oh you gotta be kidding me garry. I've found the problem. Lag compensation only activates when you shoot at someone who is not on the same "team" as you. Normally people on the same team can't hurt each other so that's fine. In TTT, everyone is on the same team ("Terrorists" on the scoreboard), and they can hurt each other.

Seems like a well intentioned optimisation having some bad consequences. I'm going to see if I can get some words from gmod people on this.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Possible fix via Facepunch: mp_friendlyfire 1

Apparently the default value changed in this version. Can't test it right now. If this is the issue, I can release an update where it's forced to be on.

edit:
Verified to work. I'll put out an update in a few hours.

edit:
It's up.

[JoTheShmo]

There is yet another update out...

http://www.garrysmod.com/news/?p=10228

Apparently it breaks scriptenforcer and kicks people for bad reasons.

[Bad King Urgrain]

I know. Does it break things? They're not breaking backwards compatibility in every update (like they did in update 76/78), so not all of them require TTT changes.

[that guy]

our server cannot change maps without crashing it might be because of the update.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Yeah, probably the gmod update. The only way TTT can really crash a server is by inducing a physics bug, which are all ironed out at this point as far as I know (and of course wouldn't happen at map change). In all other TTT bugs it'll give Lua errors and behave weird, but can't crash.

[Charles445]

Your dedication always shocks me BKU.
Please continue being awesome.

[JoTheShmo]

I encountered a very strange glitch.
I was at full health, and this guy kept questioning me "Why are you near death?" and at first I thought he was just being a decieving traitorous bastard, but then I realized he was telling the truth.
I saw many different players as near death, but once they were shot, they would just become hurt.
Everyone saw everyone else as near death when they weren't actually.

[Bad King Urgrain]

That is very strange. It sounds like a networking glitch in Source/gmod, where it failed to send everyone's health to the clients when the round restarted (as evidenced by it showing up correctly after it updates when you get shot). TTT basically asks gmod about a player's health and then shows it, so not much I can do if gmod reports the wrong number.

In other news, the magic of Google Alerts told me about a French guide to TTT. Now all we need to do is teach all newbies French.

[JossiRossi]

I'll see if I can't get some video tutorials going once I have a bit to plan them out and record. TTT is probably in as close to it's final state as it's going to be so the information won't be outdated too fast.

[JoTheShmo]

That is very strange. It sounds like a networking glitch in Source/gmod, where it failed to send everyone's health to the clients when the round restarted (as evidenced by it showing up correctly after it updates when you get shot). TTT basically asks gmod about a player's health and then shows it, so not much I can do if gmod reports the wrong number.

In other news, the magic of Google Alerts told me about a French guide to TTT. Now all we need to do is teach all newbies French.

I'll translate it!

Actually I'll just use google translate instead of my crappy high school french skills.