if there are multiple stories it could be.. a descent size... it looks barren tho. i didnt download tho, just going off the pic.

Yes i realise that. but most servers will have to Re-arm it anyways, the map only has 17 player spawns (accidently left an extra one in from when i was testing). I made it work best for 16 slot servers, and when i played on a full 16 slot server there weren't many problems. Here's how i saw it: there was no "run and gunning" traitors. As traitor, if you don't have a good weapon who are you going to sneak-attack first? the people with the big guns. I addmit, maybe around 5 primary weapons may be a little cutting it short. But this is why i made the weapons a text file, I knew people were going to complain.

Anyways, enough with the too little guns complaint. If you don't like it make your own file. Heres the new download link http://www.filefront.com/16506999/ttt_c17ruins.zip
hopefully it won't die this time

gah. I'll get the link back up asap. and charles, i have two answers to that: 1. servers can make any weapon texts they want, so talk to them because i'm not changeing it 2. There are 12 secondary weapons, (at least) 5 primary weapons, 7 random weapons, (at least) 6 gernades, and ammo for all of them. Sorry, I don't believe in finding a weapon on every corner you turn. If you look around there are weapons, but you won't find them by camping, or walking in circles on the ground.

..........Don't give people ideas....

lol ^_^ still love you too

I love that one of Garry's good points is blasting his friend in the head with the guys own gun ^_^

-sigh- THIS is why I gave up on communities.
Things we can learn from this thread:
Narwals. Ajunks Photoshop sucks. Matias has the worst timeing ever.

Was it really worth 4 pages of pointless argueing and name calling?

It's much harder than you think Meta. Traitors commonly crowbar then run off to the side to avoid shotgun blasts, how can you shoot someone if you have no idea what direction they went in?

This is a level from half-life 2 when Gordan is making his way through city 17 and towards the citadel. I edited the map, opened up some areas to allow more movement and make more paths to choose from, oh and not to mention removed all the combine soldiers, striders and civilians. In the download link i included the map file, and a weapon placement file.

If you find any glitches, exploits, or areas that look odd (chances are i added them in) please post them here. Anyways, enjoy: http://www.filefront.com/15933805/ttt_c17ruins.rar

have you played ttt_nexus? the whole map's empty. >.<

maybe, but it's possible to get that low of a ping on servers. On alters server i was blamed of secretly being Alter because of my 5-10 ping. lol

and isnt a gamemode just a mod of garry's mod? lol.

the name of the server would help.. they need to know that happened.

i wonder how many people are going to try that for the pass now... lol

:D

I was trying to figure out a way to do this in one of my maps, i havent tested it yet but maybe if you had 2 buttons for the door (1 filtered for innocents, 1 filtered for traitors). the innocent button wouldnt do anything (i.e. the button always being locked) and make the traitor button lock when innocents get too close to the button. That way it wouldnt matter if your 'use' made a sound because the button will always seem locked around innocents. Acually the innocent but isnt necessary.. lol idk just an idea

Onimusha style?

...and ghosting isnt cheating.. how?

i had no idea the crowbar did that... please do add that

hes not saying increaseing health. he saying that if you kill a traitor you get moved back closer to 100 health but never going over it. it would keep people from killing random people because they would be easier to kill after they kill too many innocents.