No Prop Killing

[Meta-Stick]

So I was playing thething, and I noticed you couldn't exactly prop kill as easy with the ladders in it. So, could this property be added to all props? The only problem I see with that, is it almost isn't realistic when dropping it...

[manbearpig101]

Can't you just make that if the inflictor (of the damage) is of the class "prop_physics" then just scale the damage down to 0?

I think that would work.

Edit: And of course you would have to check if it has been used by a magneto stick, but that wouldn't be too hard.

[Charles445]

The reason it doesn't work for thething's ladders is because the ladders probably have a very small mass.
The reason they have a small mass is because either the ladders were never meant to be physics props (overridden to become them) or the mass scale was turned down to allow carrying.

EDIT: As for this property being added, the best place to look would be GM:EntityTakeDamage

EDIT2: Line 860 to about 866 of player.lua, this is where physics damage can be scaled.

if dmginfo:IsDamageType(DMG_CRUSH) and IsValid(att) and (not att:IsPlayer()) then
        dmginfo:ScaleDamage(0.25)
        if ValidEntity(infl) and ValidEntity(infl:GetOwner()) and infl:GetOwner():IsPlayer() then
            dmginfo:ScaleDamage(0)
            dmginfo:SetDamage(0)
        end
      end

Replacing with...

if dmginfo:IsDamageType(DMG_CRUSH) and IsValid(att) and (not att:IsPlayer()) then
        dmginfo:ScaleDamage(0.25)
        if ValidEntity(infl) and ValidEntity(infl:GetOwner()) and infl:GetOwner():IsPlayer() then
            dmginfo:ScaleDamage(0)
            dmginfo:SetDamage(0)
        end
      end
if dmginfo:IsDamageType(DMG_CRUSH) and IsValid(att) and (att:IsPlayer()) then
        dmginfo:ScaleDamage(0)
end


Should theoretically work. I have not tested this.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Nope, that will just make falling on someone's head not damage them.

Is there ever a valid case of physics props killing players? I could just scale the damage down further to 0.1 or something.

[FF|NedStar]

As a traitor I tend to throw props at people every now and then, while this is a valid tactic, props generally do more harm then good. That prop kills are not registered as a kill make them the ultimate grieving weapon that can not be traced back by an admin.
I'd hate to see prop killing nerved down to the point where it becomes useless as it does add some interesting tactics to the game-play, e.g., using it as a weapon when you got nothing else, plausibility of accidental kill.

If possible, I'd like to see them stay in their current shape but have the damage done by the prop put on the player who threw it, rather then world damage.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Is throwing things the common method of prop killing? I don't think swinging props with the magneto stick works. I need a good way of reproducing prop damage in order to see if I can make it attribute properly.

[Erscheinung]

As far as I know if your holding it, it does no damage. It's only thrown props that kill.

[FF|NedStar]

Is throwing things the common method of prop killing? I don't think swinging props with the magneto stick works. I need a good way of reproducing prop damage in order to see if I can make it attribute properly.

You swing your mouse and let it go at the right moment, if done right the prop will fly pretty far and will kill/massively hurt anyone it hits. Most effective props are bricks, barrels and anything that is not breakable.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Yeah, I managed it after some practice. The v6 release should attribute damage from thrown stuff properly.

[Charles445]

Nope, that will just make falling on someone's head not damage them.

I learned that that could happen yesterday. I think it was Secone I landed on.

[Nel]

I learned that that could happen yesterday. I think it was Secone I landed on.

That hurt. :(

[Charles445]

It was either me or you nel

[Meta-Stick]

Wait, so BKU didn't know about prop killing? I just facerolled. However he did tell us, "I won't know about things, unless people tell me." That's funny, thanks for the update. Much needed :)