Trouble in Terrorist Town - a GMod gamemode

[Bad King Urgrain]

If someone changes their name in game it gets cut off on the scoreboard at some random place. Clicking on it fixes it but yea. I havent seen a pattern.

I know. I just don't have any particular desire to facilitate name changing. I'm still considering methods of countering it, in fact (like caching someone's name when they join).

And i just got this error:
Timer Error: terrortown\gamemode\vgui\ScrollLabel.lua:25: attempt to index field 'Scroll' (a nil value)

I hope garry hasn't broken scrollbars. Will look into it.

If you teleport, and then are hit by a Discombobulator/Newton launcher, you will telefrag whoever is on the other side without actually teleporting.

Odd, because it moves the teleporting player before it telefrags anyone. I'm assuming the discomb/newton successfully pushes you?

[Sly]

Odd, because it moves the teleporting player before it telefrags anyone. I'm assuming the discomb/newton successfully pushes you?

When successfully pushed by the newton/discombobulator, perhaps you move out of the box of teleportation, missing your jump.

Perhaps immobilize the player when teleporting?

[Bad King Urgrain]

The player is immobilized, or at least frozen. The problem was that the discomb/newton manipulate the player's velocity, and it turns out that's not prevented by gmod's freezing functionality. It was easy to fix by making the discomb/newton/crowbar take frozen players into account.

I have also further improved the teleportation effects to show the form of the teleporting player in the destination position, so players can avoid telefragging if they're alert. Might post a little movie of that later.

edit:
Video here. I should've used a lighter map, and youtube randomly cuts the video slightly short, but perhaps the idea is clear.

[Darkest_97]

I hope garry hasn't broken scrollbars. Will look into it.

I havent seen any scrolling problems in the tab menu. But i got this error when some people were fighting and a traitor died if i recall correctly. So it was moving him on the scoreboard probably changing the amount of scroll or something that has to do with it. If that helps.

[JoTheShmo]

The detectives are on the side of the terrorist organisation, looking to root out the traitors/infiltrators. Internal security, if you will. Some other names were considered, like inquisitor or whatnot, but detective is most clear about their gameplay role.
You're talking about the admin logs right? I suppose I could add the SteamID there.

I mean the end-of-round report thing.
You could have it save the steamID to the round-end thing, and then once the round is over, just hook up the steamIDs with the correct name.

[Bad King Urgrain]

The event log shows the nickname at the time of the event because people who disconnect during a round should still show up in it.

Again, I would much rather work on preventing namechanges than facilitating them. Being able to change your name is the root problem and will continue to cause pain until it's prevented or at least strongly discouraged. I have some ideas.

[Sly]

Why not just prevent players from changing their names during a map?

[Meta-Stick]

Name tags...! Ha, but really, I hope that gets fixed. Somebody was running around killing people and taking their names on a ttt server I was in, very unpleasant.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Why not just prevent players from changing their names during a map?

I have no way of preventing players from doing so. The only thing I can do is store their initial name as early as possible (on map load or when they join) and displaying that instead of what they've currently set as their name in Steam. Then those stored names have to be properly synchronized across all players, because it's unacceptable for one player to see a different name because he lagged out for a bit (and gmod's standard tools for this often prove unreliable in such a situation, resulting in more work for me).

The question isn't what to do, but how to do it without unexpected side effects or other issues.

First order of business will be a mechanism for automatically kicking+tempbanning players who change their name (and preferably filtering out their changed name from the kick message shown to players). This should be fairly safe compared to the widespread changes required for the method I described above. Perhaps a kickban approach will even be sufficient to make people stop.

[NaRyan]

While it would be nice to have a method to stop players changing their name, and then using the retry command so it shows up.
However would the method cause problems with a sourcemod plugin I use.

The plugin removes MW2 colour code from a players name, when they join the server\gamemode change.
So instead of the ^1P^2l^3a^4y^5e^6r it renames them and only show it as Player.

As while the name changing is annoying, players who have a name full of MW2 colour codes are just as annoying.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Your mention of the retry command just made me realise that any caching-based namechange measures I could add could be circumvented by just reconnecting, unless I make them even more complex, so those are off the table for now. This also means it's useless to try and prevent people from changing their names when they're dead/spectator: they can just disconnect->change name->rejoin.

If I limit a namechange kick to living players during a round, I can at least prevent players stealing the names of dead opponents. That shouldn't interfere with plugins like the colour code remover, as they would already have changed the player's name before they were even alive.

There would be a convar to turn it off either way.

[Darkest_97]

Players could change there names before by reconnecting, and that wasnt a problem and it shouldnt be. So why does that make a difference? In game during a round is the problem.


Edit: I always meant to ask, why doesnt pushing bodies work anymore, all i get them to do is move back and forth a little then go flying backwards. Is it because you can pick them up now?

[Darkebrz]

On the subject of picking up bodies, it is way to damn hard. If I kill someone, then say have 15 seconds to throw it over a bridge, there should be no problem. But finding the perfect spot to pick up the body is hard, and then any sort of jerky movement causes you to lose it.

[NaPStone2]

Alright, Not Sure If This Has Benn Posted, but WTH.
In The Tips Screens, Beacons Are Still Referenced, although they have been removed.
such as, As A Detective, Buy Beacons To Call Everyone Over To An Area, or Right Click With Certain Items To Place On Walls. (Radios, Beacons, C4 etc.)

Speaking of that, can radios even be placed on walls?

[CrazyChicken]

Speaking of that, can radios even be placed on walls?

Yes.

[NaPStone2]

Note To Self: Radios On The Ceilings.

[Darkest_97]

Has it been thought of to drop ammo? I assume somebody has probably said something about it.

[Darkebrz]

Note To Self: Radios On The Ceilings.

Note To You. Don't Capitalize Every Word.

[Joest]

Has it been thought of to drop ammo? I assume somebody has probably said something about it.

I'm not sure if it has, but it would be great if the ZM ammo throw could be implemented.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Edit: I always meant to ask, why doesnt pushing bodies work anymore, all i get them to do is move back and forth a little then go flying backwards. Is it because you can pick them up now?

Pushing a ragdoll is just a glitchy affair on Source's physics.

On the subject of picking up bodies, it is way to damn hard. If I kill someone, then say have 15 seconds to throw it over a bridge, there should be no problem. But finding the perfect spot to pick up the body is hard, and then any sort of jerky movement causes you to lose it.

The best spot to pick up the body is always the stomach/thigh area right in the middle of the corpse.

Lag is a factor with regards to dropping it when moving too suddenly. I'll see if I can make ragdoll carrying a bit easier, but if I make it too forgiving people will start slinging bodies across great distances.

Alright, Not Sure If This Has Benn Posted, but WTH.
In The Tips Screens, Beacons Are Still Referenced, although they have been removed.

Fixed.

Has it been thought of to drop ammo? I assume somebody has probably said something about it.

Don't want to spend a button on it. In fact at this point, it would have to be on F2 or F3 or something silly. I have plans for a radial menu (think L4D voice commands) for advanced options like that, which would avoid the limited number of standard keybinds. Then ammo giving will become more likely.

I guess I could put a temporary ZM-like ammo dropping command on one of those F-keys if people want it?