HUGE balance [split from main thread]

[Mr. Gash]

I see no one here has met Kryzoid.


He can clear a room with 5 people in it with a HUGE, within seconds. Most of the time people accuse him of being a traitor, when he has a huge.

[ball2hi]

I see no one here has met Kryzoid.


He can clear a room with 5 people in it with a HUGE, within seconds. Most of the time people accuse him of being a traitor, when he has a huge.

Because we're going to balance the game around a single player, correct? Why don't we just nerf the sniper to 1 shot every 5 seconds since Matcaster is so good with it, lol.

[Rectal Exambot]

Maybe a slight tightening of the cone, not sure about damage buff though

[Darkest_97]

Because we're going to balance the game around a single player, correct?

But you see its not balancing the game around one player, many people suck with the HUGE, and many people are very good at it.

[Mr. Gash]

Because we're going to balance the game around a single player, correct? Why don't we just nerf the sniper to 1 shot every 5 seconds since Matcaster is so good with it, lol.

If one player is that good with it, others can be too. Nerfing or buffing it would either make someone godlike and kill everyone on the server with it, or make those who fail at using it doomed.

[ball2hi]

Well, it's been said in this thread but I believe this is what the HUGE should do. Bullets should each deal 1-2 more damage and should be PIERCING bullets that will pierce through players. Tighter cone or increased accuracy shouldn't be what the HUGE is about. It's about getting close and personal and being able to mow down those stupid enough to be caught in range of its fire. The downside to having a huge is being unable to fight from a long distance, lets keep it that way.

[Cush]

From what I have seen the HUGE is pretty damn powerful as is, people often just grab one and run around shooting everyone they see and end up killing 6+ people on maps with tighter corridors. I have gotten some pretty good killing sprees just by charging around and holding down mouse1 whenever I see someone.

The only issue is that you pretty much need to get some headshots to kill quickly with it, which can be chalked down to bad reg.

[Killroy]

It's a bullet hose that kills everything it touches at close range. That's its job and it does it well.

[Raneman]

I agree with you, Ball, the problem was always in the damage, and the passive piercing bullet effect would remedy a lot of the problems of confronting people in a group.

[FBC]

I think that you are an idiot and wrong.

The HUGE is fine, if it's your playstyle. If it isn't, kill someone and take their gun.

[Firespray]

The HUGE is fine, if it's your playstyle. If it isn't, kill someone and take their gun.

This, I believe the HUGE is even one of the more powerful weapons with it's only disadvantage is range and no extra ammo.  It is pretty much perfect for close quarters.

[ball2hi]

I think that you are an idiot and wrong.

The HUGE is fine, if it's your playstyle. If it isn't, kill someone and take their gun.

I enjoy the HUGE, but I figured this was a "Find what buffs we can give to a potentially lacking weapon" thread. Not a "It's fine." thread. I've ran into countless times where the huge takes 50bullets to kill someone up close, and sometimes, like in that video earlier, hitboxes cause major problems. If we could fix the hitboxes that'd solve this weapons problem but we can't do that so I figured we came up with another solution.

[Raneman]

In close quarters, it is outdamaged by pretty much any other weapon. If the other player has steady aim, they can shoot you through your hail of bullets and shrug most of yours off/

[Killroy]

Have you ever played with Sexican?

[ball2hi]

Have you ever played with Sexican?

Again, revolving around 1 person. Nerf Sniper because Matcaster is too good with it.

[Not a Rapist]

Again, revolving around 1 person. Nerf Sniper because Matcaster is too good with it.

Sniper? Him with a deagle is worse.

In close quarters, it is outdamaged by pretty much any other weapon. If the other player has steady aim, they can shoot you through your hail of bullets and shrug most of yours off/

I would agree with this, but the HUGE is probably my worst weapon (I tend to do better with a pistol), so I'm unsure.

[Raneman]

As a general rule, if the room is bigger then 10'x10', then the HUGE will not work.

[FBC]

As a general rule, don't make general rules without support for them.

This comes down to personal opinion and playstyle. If you can't handle the recoil on the huge or shoot in bursts, then it's not your gun.

[ball2hi]

As a general rule, don't make general rules without support for them.

This comes down to personal opinion and playstyle. If you can't handle the recoil on the huge or shoot in bursts, then it's not your gun.

Short bursts is not what the HUGE was made for, and the recoil of the gun isn't something you can "handle" because it's completely random. Unless you're talking about how the HUGE moves your screen up while you shoot then well, that's easy to handle compared to the old HUGE screen movement lol.

[Raneman]

What range is the HUGE designed for? At point blank it still takes about 5 seconds to kill someone, which is more then enough time for them to kill you. At longer ranges it goes worse and worse.