Varible traitors

[Gamerofthegame]

HO BOY

Kay. Basically, it's simple; A variable set of tratiors as a random change between rounds. The normal amount of traitors per round would still happen usually, but sometimes there are additional, or less, traitors. To counter act this sudden change, the traitor group gets one more starting credit per missing traitor, or one less per additional traitor. The credits would go into debt if there was more then one increase.

So, at the cost of some fancy toys for everyone, you get a additional team mate. Or, vice versa. These different rounds should only occur randomly and it should be fairly uncommon, just to add a sudden bit of variety. Even more rare are more extreme variants - Where there is, say, four additional traitors. Or even just one traitor who can practically buy everything. Or just one innocent. (Of course, in these extreme games it's less it being balanced and more it being amusing and a change of pace.)

Tis all I got.

[Charles445]

it's less it being balanced and more it being amusing and a change of pace

[Rotinaj]

This would be good for keeping people from always knowing when there is one traitor left, but I don't like the idea of losing my starting credit for a bad teammate or vice versa.

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wow, douchebag

[Secone]

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Way to be a complete douche

[catbarf]

Maybe simply add a 'credit debt' when there are additional players, so the Traitors will need to get an extra kill or two before they earn a credit?

But I really like this idea. Remember those games of Serial Killer when there was no serial killer and everyone went crazy? It'd be like that.

[Kiwiâ„¢]

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You are a douche.

[Killroy]

This idea sounds fun.

What about all innocent rounds?

OR ALL DETECTIVE.

Actually, would the amount of detectives change?

[Rotinaj]

No, because the idea is to keep the innocents from knowing how many traitors there are. If detectives changed, they would know.

[Ajunk]

http://mammut.q-spot.org/misc/picpost/hahaha-no.jpg

God what a douche.

Anyways, it could be neat, but I'm against it. The innocents have very few deduction skills as it is, why take away the one where they know how many traitors they're up against?

[OctaneHugo]

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Nice post, biggest douche ever.

I don't like this, though, because on one hand the traitors already have few members and on the other nobody wants to be stranded with no credits.

For the more drastic changes, it'd get pretty dull pretty fast to have multiple "10 traitors 1 innocent" every day.

[Charles445]

The way I see it, this would only be 'fair' if the randomness only compensates for uneven amounts of players.
As in, 1-4 players means 1 traitor
5-7 is 1 or 2 traitors
8 is 2
9-11 is 2-3, etc.
Manipulating people's credits would prove a mess and would probably be unnecessary.

I can understand why you don't like the "there are X traitors, X left to go". Unbalancing the gamemode to fix this however? No.

Remember those games of Serial Killer when there was no serial killer and everyone went crazy? It'd be like that.

Now THIS would be fantastic.
There wouldn't be issues with balancing because there are no traitors. It would be effective and fun.

[Rotinaj]

No. Those rounds were miserable and confusing. No one wants to sit around and wait for paranoia to set in, and then wait for the innocents to kill each other. As interesting as it sounds in theory, it simply doesn't work.

[Charles445]

No. Those rounds were miserable and confusing. No one wants to sit around and wait for paranoia to set in, and then wait for the innocents to kill each other. As interesting as it sounds in theory, it simply doesn't work.

I guess the illusion would die as well.

[Gamerofthegame]

Har har.

Anyway, this stuff is not meant to be common. Maybe only a 1/10 chance of it even fluctuating at all. Just a additional little variable that changes things.

[Meta-Stick]

I like the idea, everyone has good points. I can't really say whether it's good or bad. o_o

[Bad King Urgrain]

I'm not going to do this in standard TTT, because things randomly acting weird and different is equal to "wtf bugz" to people. However, I will disable the chat notification when the traitor percentage convar changes. That way, this mechanic would be quite easy to do as a server "plugin"/script: hook TTTPrepareRound and simply adjust ttt_traitor_pct occasionally. The players wouldn't know anything happened. You could even have it ask an admin for that SK feeling.