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Ajunk
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May 27, 2010, 03:54:33 PM »
Thanks to this:
Quote from: "Garry"
That is all, but congratulation to all those that did win. You will each have the opportunity to add achievements to your gamemode (Those real, fancy steam achievements) as well as release updates to your gamemode over steam.[/quote]
And this:
http://frettacontest.facepunchstudios.com/
It looks like there's achievements to add.
As far as I am aware, achievements require 3 things:
[li]Criteria[/li]
[li]Icons[/li]
[li]Snazzy Names[/li]
Valve seems to have items 2 and 3 pretty much mastered. For every release, the icons and names of the achievements (usually) fit the theme of the game. Portal's achievements have science themes, TF2's Heavy achievements have Russian themes, Counter-Strike: Source's new achievements have internet memes, etc.
With that in mind, we should probably angle towards a steady theme in TTT.
As far as icons go, the only idea that comes to mind is to continue BKU's classic gmod ragdolls + solid colour background style.
For snazzy names, there are a lot of options, but I personally think the best choice (and subsequently, probably the hardest one) is to go with an alliteration angle (har har har).
As far as criteria goes, I feel it unnecessary to explain what makes a good achievement in horrific detail. In brief, good achievements include teaching players about the game, teaching players unobvious tricks and tactics, encouraging players to try new things, and rewarding for good (team helping) behavior. Any achievement that provokes bad behavior or causes players to get side-tracked and not help their team is bad.
Since achievements at the end of the day are still achievements, there should be hard achievements which take skill and/or time to complete (remember that some people actually like grinding). After all, we don't want getting all the achievements to be easy. In fact, I feel as if players with just a few dangling achievements left are more likely to return than players with 100% complete.
So, in a sentence, TTT's achievements should have an balanced range from easy to difficult which teach players about the game, encourage good behavior, and never cause players to be useless or harmful to their team.
BRAINSTORM TIME. GO.
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Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 03:58:32 PM by Ajunk
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You're all the most fucking heartless people
Nel
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May 27, 2010, 03:57:45 PM »
Any idea how many TTT will be limited to? If it's allowed to have a lot, we could make plenty of easy ones to teach people about the game. Yet, if it's only a few, we could actually make some pretty challenging ones that only a few people will be able to get.
Silverstream
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May 27, 2010, 04:34:23 PM »
Here's an idea for an achievement:
Title:
"Yes, I am the real Bad King Urgrain!"
Task:
Play on the same server as Bad King Urgrain
Icon:
BKU's forum icon.
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Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 04:44:50 PM by Silverstream
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Ajunk
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May 27, 2010, 05:02:52 PM »
Quote from: Nel on May 27, 2010, 03:57:45 PM
Any idea how many TTT will be limited to?
That seems really important.
Anywho, here's some ideas:
> Survive 10 rounds as a traitor without using the knife.
> Survive 50 rounds as innocent without killing any teammates.
> Kill at least 5 players in a single C4 explosion.
> Kill an innocent with the poltergeist.
> Play 8 straight rounds as innocent.
> Identify 1000 unidentified bodies.
> As a detective, find 10 credits on the bodies of fallen traitors.
> As a traitor, find 10 credits on the bodies of fallen detectives.
> Survive the round as traitor without spending any credits.
Quote from: loli_melony on September 22, 2009, 01:31:31 AM
You're all the most fucking heartless people
Charles445
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I LOVE THIS AVATAR
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May 27, 2010, 05:06:52 PM »
I think it should be his sherlock picture, and achievements should have green backgrounds.
Quote from: BaconManRules on April 15, 2011, 10:37:34 PM
del>Ok, so Bad King, you are just going to wait for Garry to fix?
What an idiotic thing to ask. Dammit weed.
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Bad King Urgrain
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May 27, 2010, 05:23:06 PM »
Quote from: Silverstream on May 27, 2010, 04:34:23 PM
strong>Task: Play on the same server as Bad King Urgrain
Make that one "Why is his name green?". People go on and on about that.
Anyway, I have not heard anything about achievements yet from garry, so I have no idea about the number of achievements or whether there are restrictions on the icon style or type of achievement.
I agree with all the stuff about achievements for constructive behaviour etc. If there is a low limit on achievements, I would have that kind of achievement over gimmick ones.
One last thing:
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As far as icons go, the only idea that comes to mind is to continue BKU's classic gmod ragdolls + solid colour background style.
It's actually not solid! There's a subtle gradient and a bit of texture/noise. That's important because solid colours look boring in comparison. I am an artiste, oui.
Charles445
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I LOVE THIS AVATAR
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May 27, 2010, 05:32:07 PM »
Quote from: Bad King Urgrain on May 27, 2010, 05:23:06 PM
a bit of texture/noise
Really? It doesn't make much of a difference.
*adds noise*
What do you think about this being the base bg?
Quote from: BaconManRules on April 15, 2011, 10:37:34 PM
del>Ok, so Bad King, you are just going to wait for Garry to fix?
What an idiotic thing to ask. Dammit weed.
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Bad King Urgrain
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May 27, 2010, 05:34:17 PM »
The colour makes me vomit.
Really though, I'm not going to make any decisions about icons at this point. When the time comes to make some, I'm most likely going to do it myself.
Silverstream
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May 27, 2010, 05:42:11 PM »
After spending 1/2 an hour on brainstorming a few ideas, here's what I came up with:
> Kill every innocent in a round as a traitor with the Silenced Pistol.
> Kill every innocent in a round as a traitor ONLY purchasing the Disguiser
> Kill 50 innocents as a traitor with the Crowbar.
> Burn a detective's Corpse intact with a credit using the Flare Gun.
> Burn a traitor's Corpse intact with a credit using the Flare Gun.
> Kill 15 innocents with explosive barrels as a traitor.
> Kill 50 Innocents using the Knife.
> Kill an Innocent using the Flare Gun.
> Kill an Innocent with less than 10 health remaining.
> Defuse 25 C4 as a detective.
> Defuse a C4 within 1 second of detonating.
> Plant a C4 with the code "1337" as a traitor.
> Kill everyone in a round using only C4.
> Die by your own C4.
> Defuse another traitor buddy's C4 as a traitor.
> Do Not Identify any corpses for 10 rounds straight.
> Identify 50 corpses using the Binoculars.
> Discombobulate 100 innocents.
> Destroy 50 health stations as a Traitor.
> Health yourself with over 200 points of Health using the Health Dispenser.
> Fall from a height of at least 20 meters and survive. (From dm_island17)
> Kill yourself 50 times by drowning.
> Kill yourself 50 times by burning.
> Kill a Player as a prop in Spectator Mode.
That's all I got so far.
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Last Edit: May 27, 2010, 05:46:02 PM by Silverstream
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Secone
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May 27, 2010, 05:56:13 PM »
Hmm, I was trying to think of traitor-specific achievements but, if you were to get it, wouldn't it go "Secone has achieved "I am a traitor!"" and then everyone would instantly gun you down
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JossiRossi
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May 27, 2010, 06:00:38 PM »
> Kill every innocent in a round as a traitor with the Silenced Pistol.
> Kill everyone in a round using only C4.
Will never happen on populated servers. Will be too easy with only 1 other person.
> Burn a traitor's Corpse intact with a credit using the Flare Gun.
Good idea.
> Kill 50 Innocents using the Knife.
Let's not encourage the CHEAPEST way kill the game has to offer. My suggestion would be "Freebie. Now Do Some Actual Work" Kill someone with the knife.
> Defuse a C4 within 1 second of detonating.
Encourages people simply planting their own C4 and waiting until it's down to 1 second. Or waiting on others C4 to run down. Bad idea.
> Plant a C4 with the code "1337" as a traitor.
Isn't it only 3 numbers?
> Die by your own C4.
Why encourage being dumb?
> Defuse another traitor buddy's C4 as a traitor.
Don't encourage traitors working against each other.
> Do Not Identify any corpses for 10 rounds straight.
This is really bad. This encourages players to NOT do one of the few things they CAN do.
> Identify 50 corpses using the Binoculars.
Not a bad one.
> Discombobulate 100 innocents.
> Fall from a height of at least 20 meters and survive. (From dm_island17)
> Kill yourself 50 times by drowning.
> Kill yourself 50 times by burning.
> Kill a Player as a prop in Spectator Mode.
Encourages stupidity.
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Therio
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Reply #11 on:
May 27, 2010, 07:47:23 PM »
Use a knife you picked up from a traitor you killed to kill another traitor
shutup9100
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In the name of The Empreror I would tap dat ass
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May 27, 2010, 08:24:34 PM »
Bring your friends we'll estrage you from them!
Kill five of your friends as traitor.
Quote from: Shadow_Archmagi on February 23, 2010, 05:06:18 PM
del>my Kiwi's grandmother WAS THE TITANIC
Quote from: Ajunk on February 23, 2010, 05:36:37 PM
Mine was the iceberg.
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May 27, 2010, 08:45:30 PM »
One obligatory difficult one should be to kill all of the traitors as a detective without killing any innocents. As for the name something like "Elementary My Dear Watson" or some cliche Sherlock Holmes pun would do fine.
Or you know there could always be map specific achievements...
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May 27, 2010, 09:51:53 PM »
Quote from: Secone on May 27, 2010, 05:56:13 PM
Hmm, I was trying to think of traitor-specific achievements but, if you were to get it, wouldn't it go "Secone has achieved "I am a traitor!"" and then everyone would instantly gun you down
This is pretty important, if it can be programmed so that they only appear for everyone at the end of the round , or at the very least that they don't appear at all, then there's nothing to worry about, but if not there's a fairly large problem.
Quote from: albert on July 28, 2010, 11:25:28 AM
my game keeps crashing as it loads, (i have all the expansion packs including the apartment life) and i am hearing that it might possibly be a custom content problem? how do i remove custom content?
Ajunk
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May 28, 2010, 01:03:13 AM »
Quote from: Citizen_001 on May 27, 2010, 08:45:30 PM
Or you know there could always be map specific achievements...
Oh god no.
Also (and I'm pretty sure I'm speaking for more people than just myself on this one) goddammit Silverstream you have the worst ideas.
Quote from: Secone on May 27, 2010, 05:56:13 PM
Hmm, I was trying to think of traitor-specific achievements but, if you were to get it, wouldn't it go "Secone has achieved "I am a traitor!"" and then everyone would instantly gun you down
Oh yeah, dishing out achievements at the end of the round would be easy (if I'm not mistaken).
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Reply #16 on:
May 28, 2010, 01:35:00 AM »
Serial Killer Achievement.
Kill 10 players as a traitor in a round OR kill one of the original SK players. BKU could code that right?
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May 28, 2010, 01:35:35 AM »
Quote from: Ajunk on May 28, 2010, 01:03:13 AM
Oh god no.
Also (and I'm pretty sure I'm speaking for more people than just myself on this one) goddammit Silverstream you have the worst ideas..
Agreed. But I still think these could work out:
> Burn a traitor's Corpse intact with a credit using the Flare Gun.
> Kill innocents until the round is over as a traitor only with the Silenced Pistol.
> Identify 50 corpses using the Binoculars.
> Kill a traitor as a prop in Spectator Mode. -
Encourages players to utilize the "Prop Spectating feature"
> Kill at least 5 players as a traitor in a round using the Scout Rifle.
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shutup9100
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In the name of The Empreror I would tap dat ass
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May 28, 2010, 01:57:57 AM »
Ajunk is always the traitor:
Kill Ajunk when he is traitor.
Quote from: Shadow_Archmagi on February 23, 2010, 05:06:18 PM
del>my Kiwi's grandmother WAS THE TITANIC
Quote from: Ajunk on February 23, 2010, 05:36:37 PM
Mine was the iceberg.
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May 28, 2010, 02:28:15 AM »
Quote from: shutup9100 on May 28, 2010, 01:57:57 AM
Ajunk is always the traitor:
Kill Ajunk when he is traitor.
I endorse this inappropriate yet prophetic achievement.
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Serial Killer Achievement.
Kill 10 players as a traitor in a round OR kill one of the original SK players. BKU could code that right?
Would love an ego booster.
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Last Edit: May 28, 2010, 02:31:37 AM by Soduka
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