Trouble in Terrorist Town - a GMod gamemode

[Milo]

TDR is jumping on a bandwagon and running a shit server

Text is incapable of containing my surprise.

[Bad King Urgrain]

Small update today, just some bugfixes:
- Fixed traitor indications on the scoreboard not going away when a new round started.

- Fixed clientside Lua errors that could occur in certain edge cases involving another player having disconnected.

- Fixed how when joining a server while a round was in progress, the client would display "waiting" until the round state changed again. It should now update immediately after joining.

Trouble in Terrorist Town v190909

[Ajunk]

Text is incapable of containing my surprise.

So you're really surprised?

[OctaneHugo]

So you're really surprised?

ZING

[Milo]

So you're really surprised?

See that was called sarcasm.

I was saying that because TDR likes making servers for whatever game happens to have come out at the moment, and then having them be shit.

[Soduka]

Updated.

[sulkdodds]

See that was called sarcasm.

Actually it was hyperbole applied to sarcasm. Unfortunately your statement could conceivably be taken as being neither, because it fulfilled the characteristics of its own description. That is to say, you claimed that your surprise couldn't be put into text, and there was indeed no surprise evident in your text. It was pretty funny how Ajunk drew attention to this.

[muffin man XD]

Thanks for the scoreboard changes <3

[Notary]

Today we played a map (dm_tropic_enhanced at Ice cave) that has a driverable boat in it. Cars can be used as well. Driving a boat around the islands, looking at situation, telling who's suspicious was lots of fun. Playing with vehicles would expand the gameplay more. I'll definitely place a couple of buggies in the next map if I ever make it.

However, there are a 3 bugs when using a vehicle:

- You can't see anyone's name while driving and no one can see yours as well
- Boat did no damage when I tryed to crush someone with it. It did damage only when someone is being crushed against the wall
- The boat disappeares immediately after someone leaves it. I made a test map and placed buggy, it didn't disappear when I left though.

Also, compiled just a box with info_player_start and prop_vehicle_driverable and saw this guy in the air

[OctaneHugo]

If somebody made some huge wasteland-ish map with a few jeeps that'd be really cool. I think adding a car to Jossi's map would work pretty well, too.

[FF|NedStar]

Oh I surely loved dragging you to the leeches.

I think vehicles are pretty nice, I just hope people won't use it to dick around with.
And I agree, it be nice to crush people with vehicles. Specially if your the traitor, it could open a whole new level of killing and suspicion regarding vehicles.

[Milo]

Only if killer vehicles get permanent blood splatters to indicate it.

[Bad King Urgrain]

However, there are a 3 bugs when using a vehicle:

- You can't see anyone's name while driving and no one can see yours as well

I'll check what gmod sandbox does here for it's target ID display.

- Boat did no damage when I tryed to crush someone with it. It did damage only when someone is being crushed against the wall

Perhaps a side effect of player-held physics objects damage prevention. Should be easy enough to see if there's a way to discern between the two types of damage.

- The boat disappeares immediately after someone leaves it. I made a test map and placed buggy, it didn't disappear when I left though.

I have no idea about this. Obviously I haven't coded anything that has anything to do with vehicles, let alone vehicle removal.

I'm not convinced vehicles are a good idea, but the first two things won't take much time to check out, so I'll do that at least.

Also, compiled just a box with info_player_start and prop_vehicle_driverable and saw this guy in the air

I noticed that when I made my traitor checker test map, and it went away when I switched the player start to an info_player_deathmatch. I don't know why, but actual TTT maps should use deathmatch spawns anyway.

[worbat]

A push function as a silent kill. Push people out of windows of bridges.

Wouldn't need custom models, just an altfire attack mode for the crowbar.

[goatfetus]

O man, that would be amazingly effective and possibly hilarious on canyon, but that's the only map I can think of right now that it would work in. I'm all for something like a push function though, but it seems like we're starting to nag tgb just a bit.

[Firespray]

A push function as a silent kill. Push people out of windows of bridges.

Wouldn't need custom models, just an altfire attack mode for the crowbar.

I would really like to see that.  Makes a killer's job easier, yet it creates a epic and hilarious moment.

[worbat]

Especially if it showed it as a normal death, not a killing.

[goatfetus]

I think it would by default, because you're not doing any damage to the guy, the ground/whatever he lands on is. Which also means that the traitor wouldn't get any points for it.

[Gamerofthegame]

Actually, airboats just don't damage people, period. It's a Source thing, I think.

The boats disappearing in the map is also a server script thing, or a map one - Probably because you no doubt have a unlimited spawn of boats on the map... It's done to make sure there is no spam.

Vehicles have a certain bleh for server owners because apparently they're troublesome... A airboat isn't nearly as popular as the buggy, though they are the 'safest'. A buggy can run people over easily. A Jelopy is the best vehicle, however it lags the server in question a lot from it's vanilla state just due to the headlight thing - I can't get into it off the top of my head, but it isn't really repairable.

I overall approve of vehicles in use, though if they're used the map has to be bigger and more open... Which means that people on foot are a bit shunned in certain situations. Long travel times, etc. Also, this would make rounds a bit longer as a result, probably. The mag stick will in no way beable to flip vehicles over, though if you used a prop to do it it'd be fine... Albeit a bit haphazard, ho hum.

Also... Shooting at people in a driver seat is kinda... Odd. It would be very hard to kill people in a vehicle (Though I think it's more for the Jely and the Buggy, the airboat is pretty open) so I do suggest to keep it just to airboats on a island-ish map, maybe buggies on a very city-ish map. (Like downtown, save the roads wouldn't be so busy. Means peeps would have to get out to enter buildings and such. Would have to be bigger, of course...)

Overall, though, it could work well. Or it could... Not. Ha.

In anycase.

I petition removing the mac-10's kick back... As it's pretty crappy right not at the moment. It falls inbetween a riffle and a shotgun - It has very nice range, though it needs to keep the aim on the person to kill.

And giving holster, or crowbar, a 'push' would be awesome and I originally came here to say that...

[Marphy Black]

Two things I mentioned in-game but am not sure if are truly bugs:

[li]The magneto-stick's push has an infinite range.[/li]
[li]When you hold a phys object with the magneto-stick, you can push around heavier, otherwise immovable phys objects. For example, if I hold a chair (indestructible), I can push around one of those heavy green cabinets if I shove the chair into them. I haven't tested this personally, but I imagine I could even knock a car around with this tactic. This could be used to make some impenetrable barricades or, in the worst case scenario, teamkill by launching heavy items.[/li]

Dopey, minor suggestion just to add some visual variety:

[li]Right now the only player model used is the Phoenix terrorist. Just to break up the monotony a little and take advantage of the additional available models, I suggest having all the players start with a random terrorist model every round. I do not mean that each individual player has a different skin, but rather one round everyone is the Phoenix model, the next round everyone is the Leet model, the next round everyone is the Guerrilla, the next round everyone is the Arctic guy, and so on in random fashion. Nothing important, but just some fun variety.[/li]