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igSgtPepper
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September 25, 2010, 05:59:08 PM »
Ive recently been wondering what it would be like for an innocent to get stuff from menus. Like a detective or a Traitor. Obviously, the items from the menus wouldnt be too extreme, (Example: no knives or powerful weapons.) i have a few ideas for weapons and items in the menu, one of them being the ability to buy default weapons (M16, Desert Eagle, Sniper Rifle, H.U.G.E, Mac10, Pistol, Incendiary, Discombobulator, Etc...).
another idea i have is DoubleTap Where for 25 seconds after a player dies (provided the killer is/was within 15 feet away) it will say who killed him (like him saying who killed him right before he dies, kind of like last words) ALso, if the fatal wound was a headshot, it will not appear, and it will dissapear if the traitor (or some idiot) shoots the body. (in wich, would lose them karma if they were innocent)
And, if you were wondering, the only way innocents would get credits is by killing a traitor or defusing a C4 or other acts that prove ones innocency.
Even i think this idea needs a little work... maybe a LOT of work... but i dont think its too bad.
catbarf
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September 25, 2010, 06:22:19 PM »
The concept itself adds unnecessary complexity to an already pretty complex game. The specific example you gave is a very, very bad idea. It effectively renders stealthy kills impossible except through out-of-the-blue sniping.
Nasu
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September 25, 2010, 06:25:58 PM »
Innocents should have an option of choosing between lower gravity or higher speed :3
igSgtPepper
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September 25, 2010, 06:38:48 PM »
Quote from: catbarf on September 25, 2010, 06:22:19 PM
The concept itself adds unnecessary complexity to an already pretty complex game. The specific example you gave is a very, very bad idea. It effectively renders stealthy kills impossible except through out-of-the-blue sniping.
The example i gave meant the INNOCENTs coulnt buy kinves and high powered weapons, traitor menus remain the same.
DemiGod
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September 25, 2010, 07:01:01 PM »
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 25, 2010, 05:59:08 PM
another idea i have is DoubleTap Where for 25 seconds after a player dies (provided the killer is/was within 15 feet away) it will say who killed him
Your ideas are bad, the concept is bad and you should feel bad
Quote from: Weighted Companion Cube on April 13, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
I hate all of you
Quote from: Pastor on July 09, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
Nah, more like demigod isn't self centered and he is legality cool guy.
igSgtPepper
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September 25, 2010, 07:48:47 PM »
Quote from: DemiGod on September 25, 2010, 07:01:01 PM
Your ideas are bad, the concept is bad and you should feel bad
Alright.... I realize that forums have constructive cirticism but you. sir, are trying to make me mad. Stop trolling.
Darkest_97
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Hi.
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September 25, 2010, 07:58:23 PM »
If innocents could buy weapons then we wouldnt need weapons on maps.
And what would they buy with, credits? Then traitors would never get credits off dead traitors. And if innocents had credits, traitors could buy everything by getting those credits, and innocents could have a weapon all the time by getting each others credits.
Sorry cant work.
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 25, 2010, 07:48:47 PM
Alright.... I realize that forums have constructive cirticism but you. sir, are trying to make me mad. Stop trolling.
Welcome to the ZM forums. :D
catbarf
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September 25, 2010, 08:01:28 PM »
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 25, 2010, 06:38:48 PM
The example i gave meant the INNOCENTs coulnt buy kinves and high powered weapons, traitor menus remain the same.
And that is unrelated to my criticism.
1. Allowing innocents to buy things makes it yet more complex.
2. Allowing innocents to buy a 25-second reveal-you-if-you-kill-me win button is a bad idea.
igSgtPepper
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September 25, 2010, 08:04:49 PM »
Quote from: catbarf on September 25, 2010, 08:01:28 PM
And that is unrelated to my criticism.
1. Allowing innocents to buy things makes it yet more complex.
2. Allowing innocents to buy a 25-second reveal-you-if-you-kill-me win button is a bad idea.
shoot/crowbar the body afterwards, thus the name, "Double Tap"
DemiGod
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September 25, 2010, 09:02:02 PM »
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 25, 2010, 08:04:49 PM
shoot/crowbar the body afterwards, thus the name, "Double Tap"
Then it becomes useless because the traitor would just shoot the body
Quote from: Weighted Companion Cube on April 13, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
I hate all of you
Quote from: Pastor on July 09, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
Nah, more like demigod isn't self centered and he is legality cool guy.
igSgtPepper
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September 25, 2010, 09:53:55 PM »
Quote from: DemiGod on September 25, 2010, 09:02:02 PM
Then it becomes useless because the traitor would just shoot the body
Not entirley, i mean, there will be traitors that forget or cant find a chance to because of others around him notacing. But theres a low chance of the innocent even having doubletap in the first place, Remeber, making the innocent weapons not to useful for game balace sake.
DemiGod
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September 25, 2010, 09:57:16 PM »
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 25, 2010, 09:53:55 PM
Not entirley, i mean, there will be traitors that forget
Not after the first week
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 25, 2010, 09:53:55 PM
or cant find a chance to because of others around him notacing.
Why would a traitor kill an innocent in front of another innocent?
Quote from: Weighted Companion Cube on April 13, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
I hate all of you
Quote from: Pastor on July 09, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
Nah, more like demigod isn't self centered and he is legality cool guy.
igSgtPepper
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September 25, 2010, 10:04:23 PM »
Quote from: DemiGod on September 25, 2010, 09:57:16 PM
Why would a traitor kill an innocent in front of another innocent?
Not in front of, but around, for example, say a traitor kills an innocent in a room, and there s a innocent in another room next to it the traitor would have to get out of that room before the ohter innocent goes in there to find out what happened. Another senario (dont think i spelled that right) would be if you pushed someone off a building, you would not have enough time to jump on the ledge and shoot the body without anyone looking up to see you do it.
DemiGod
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Reply #13 on:
September 25, 2010, 10:07:45 PM »
Taking a second shot with practically any weapon in TTT takes no time at all.
Quote from: Weighted Companion Cube on April 13, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
I hate all of you
Quote from: Pastor on July 09, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
Nah, more like demigod isn't self centered and he is legality cool guy.
igSgtPepper
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September 25, 2010, 10:32:32 PM »
Quote from: DemiGod on September 25, 2010, 10:07:45 PM
Taking a second shot with practically any weapon in TTT takes no time at all.
You raise a good point. but, it takes even less time too look up and read someones name.
DemiGod
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September 25, 2010, 11:20:24 PM »
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 25, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
You raise a good point. but, it takes even less time too look up and read someones name.
And tell people who it is?
Quote from: Weighted Companion Cube on April 13, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
I hate all of you
Quote from: Pastor on July 09, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
Nah, more like demigod isn't self centered and he is legality cool guy.
JossiRossi
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Now touching you ever so slightly less.
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September 25, 2010, 11:41:29 PM »
Why do half the suggestions made seem to be "I am bad at this game, make it easier for me."? Just without fully admitting that is the cause of the idea.
Get off my lawn you rotten kids!
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Nah, he's just being 'correct'. It's just JossiRossi's way of dealing with it.
Indy Game News: Thanks For Playing.
igSgtPepper
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September 26, 2010, 01:04:47 AM »
Quote from: DemiGod on September 25, 2010, 11:20:24 PM
And tell people who it is?
Exactly.
Quote from: JossiRossi on September 25, 2010, 11:41:29 PM
Why do half the suggestions made seem to be "I am bad at this game, make it easier for me."? Just without fully admitting that is the cause of the idea.
This is simply to make being innocent more fun. Its boring as hell not being able to really do anything as innocent but die
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DemiGod
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September 26, 2010, 01:25:10 AM »
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 26, 2010, 01:04:47 AM
Exactly.
I completely contradicted you and now you are just saying that to try and sound smart
Quote from: Weighted Companion Cube on April 13, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
I hate all of you
Quote from: Pastor on July 09, 2010, 01:26:57 AM
Nah, more like demigod isn't self centered and he is legality cool guy.
JossiRossi
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Now touching you ever so slightly less.
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September 26, 2010, 02:57:28 AM »
Quote from: igSgtPepper on September 26, 2010, 01:04:47 AM
This is simply to make being innocent more fun. Its boring as hell not being able to really do anything as innocent but die
How would a CS purchase menu and the fact traitors will shoot you one extra time make it more fun?
Get off my lawn you rotten kids!
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Nah, he's just being 'correct'. It's just JossiRossi's way of dealing with it.
Indy Game News: Thanks For Playing.
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