Ah, I see. Hmm. Could be useful, but could just add additional complexity to a game that is complicated enough as it is.

No, I mean if their health is set to 100, you crowbar them once, their health is still at 100, you realize the health is fake and you shoot them.

Wouldn't the de facto traitor checking method be to shoot/crowbar someone to see if the displayed health is fake?

The Newton Launcher is mostly used to sneak up on people and blast them off heights. A mine would require them to walk onto just the right area and leave it at just the right angle to get knocked off. I don't think it would be overpowered at all, just different.

The first time a stupid detective deputizes a traitor, all trust in the game mechanic will be broken. And the morons who kill someone the Detective said was innocent likely won't obey a green circle anyways.

No point. A competent detective will say 'Okay, X is innocent, don't kill him'. An incompetent detective will do horrible things with this ability. It's not up to the game to make people obey the detective through the use of visual aids.

No, seriously. It wouldn't matter if it put a HUD icon on everyone's screen that said HEY TRAITOR HERE, it would still be no fun to get instakilled ten seconds into the round. Your concerns were raised well before the change ever was implemented.

Now, you have about a second to shout the traitor's name before you die, instead of being instantly killed. Now, as a traitor, you have to actually backstab and be sneaky rather than simply pull out a knife and instakill a guy right in front of you before he can react. It now actually requires some skill to use, like all the other traitor equipment. This is exactly as it should be.

And that is unrelated to my criticism.

1. Allowing innocents to buy things makes it yet more complex.

2. Allowing innocents to buy a 25-second reveal-you-if-you-kill-me win button is a bad idea.

The concept itself adds unnecessary complexity to an already pretty complex game. The specific example you gave is a very, very bad idea. It effectively renders stealthy kills impossible except through out-of-the-blue sniping.

They have to find the weapon on the map, get in position, and then be pretty accurate to kill you. You can get instakilled by a knife ten seconds after traitors are chosen. It requires absolutely no skill whatsoever to use and feels like a very cheap death.



Well for you to get out of knife range, he'd have to be standing still, so credit to you for killing an incompetent traitor.

Because you have so much fun when you instadie thirty seconds into a round and sit out for five minutes, right Gamer?

Balance does not equal fun.

Yes I totally did. This is news to me.

No, Garry's Mod does not come with TTT. And an SVN for Gmod would be useless. Run the install command for the server again and it will update.

What?

The point is that traitors look like innocents. There are two innocents. The label says 'innocents'. Suddenly the s goes away, there's only one innocent. The traitor draws a knife and kills the other. 'Traitor'. It summarizes the game.

Shows two terrorists

MEET THE INNOCENTS

Suiddenly the S disappears

One pulls a knife

MEET THE TRAITOR

Stabbity

The game does not need yet more confusion in the form of ever-more-complex classes.

Maybe simply add a 'credit debt' when there are additional players, so the Traitors will need to get an extra kill or two before they earn a credit?

But I really like this idea. Remember those games of Serial Killer when there was no serial killer and everyone went crazy? It'd be like that.

All of that is exactly the same as in Half-Life 2. It's the same engine. All mods do the same thing. There is functionally no difference between the hit detection in Gmod and the hit detection in ZM. It's the same code.

Soduka has informed me that if this kind of thing happens again, the server will be shut down for good. Now can we dispense with the petty bullshit and play nice?